Redux.
Once again, and all-too-familiar: Chops is forced to raise it's virtual pen and warn of reprobates.
Newest entry onto the field of play is the self-styled Lady Raven Avalon, who claims she is the high priestess of a Black Raven Coven, and an experienced witch, mentor and teacher of seminars of more than 40 years. She lists her location as Wiltshire, UK, but no one has ever heard of her in Wiltshire or anywhere else. Hers, and the 'coven' name spontaneously appeared on the internet this past February; all pushing her (self-published) books for sale. Facebook, Gather, PaganSpace.net, Twitter, Blogger, etc - all accounts made within a day or two of each other, and most never returned to after placing the book ad and links (drive traffic and up search engine ratings = $$).
From what Chops has read of the self-publishings so far, they seem to rehash the most simplistic Wiccan/Witch info that is freely available everywhere on the web. Raven's sudden appearance with no prior history or presence in the pagan communities or online; the claims and sales spam, is all incredibly reminiscent of Rochelle Moore (aka Zara Alcott) ; and most especially to include her use of Facebook to solicite $$ and naive alcolytes. Said acolytes who of course would never think to ask for real references or proof of her claims before tossing fawning bright blessing$ all over her.
First coming to our attention as a copyright infringer, Raven then solidified Chops attention when she repeatedly lied, in the face of overwhelming evidence, that certain pictures and paintings were of herself, and done by a friend named P. Faust, whom Chops suspects is one of a long line of alts. This was utterly Moore-esque. The following screenshots are used with permission.
From Ravens Facebook profile:
When this came to light, Raven insisted that her profile pic was a photograph of herself taken by a friend click for larger image:
At the same time that she was typing the lie, the professional artist who painted the picture, Mary McAndrew was contacted and made clear that it was her artwork, copyrighted and watermarked, and she had not given permission or gifted the art to this Raven person (as Raven claimed elsewhere). Raven immediately went on a counterattack largely through alts, trying to raise sympathy for her persecution amongst her group followers, and attacking the people who had caught her out. More Moore-ishness..
On the heels of the above incident came another:
This time she claimed her profile pic (another negative-ized image, above, right) was a photo of her taken by a friend (sound familiar?). Apparently Mz. Raven doesn't seem to realize that simply making a picture a negative image doesn't fool too many people. She is not Olivia Wilde, the actress pictured. Another round of denial and lies ensued. She is still using this Olivia image on a few websites.
Then, again...not four days after the first two. This time she labeled the stolen photo as herself, and added her alts name as the painter:
True to form, the image is someone elses property and copyright: Maggie Sottoro, LLC.
She is still using the above stolen photo as her own at her Gather profile. EDIT: It has been removed from that profile, but Olivia Wildes negative image remains.
Two notes - Raven claims the stolen Maggie Sotero, Ltd image is a painting of her done by P. Faust in 2009; Maggie Sotero didn't produce the dress prior to 2011 for the current line. Also, on her PaganSpace profile, created this March 2011, Raven claims to be 55 years old, and a practicing witch for 50 years. Eh? So Maggie Sotero's wedding dress model is actually the 52 year old Raven Avalon.
large image, click to enlarge
Following these embarrassments, Raven and her alts (and one or two acolytes) called for a group persecution of the Facebook group and administrator of the group that busted her (seen this before?). Note the attempt to make her followers feel they were all being attacked to twist her deception and theft into some form of group persecution:
...as well as to try to use them to get Lesley and the groups that caught her out banned.
Chops is amazed at the gall; but moreso at the insistent lies after proof positive is clear for all to see, including the culprit. Is this the hallmark of a compulsive liar, a substance-abuse problem, or just sheer stupidity? We may never know. In any event, following all of the above, Mz. priestess 'experienced teacher of newbies' closed her Lady Raven Avalon Facebook page, and directed all to her Black Raven Coven page.
In conclusion - although Chops anticipates more to come - we would like to warn newcomers to Paganism to please beware of those claiming titles and experience and who-knows-what, without a shred of evidence to back it up, and especially if not a soul in the real-world pagan community has ever heard of them. You have every right - and in fact, an obligation to yourself - to ask questions, to ask for credentials and references. A good teacher would appreciate your common sense and be happy to prove themselves. A good teacher would not be tossing 'titles' around. Also, ask around; don't rely on just their word, no matter how saccharine love & light they first appear.
These cautions are quadrupled in the online world, where anyone can say anything, create fake alts to back themselves up, and pay to have books published and listed on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Literally anyone can publish anything today; it isn't read, selected for publishing, or anything else. If you can pay, upload it to the publisher and purchase an IBN number, *poof* - you have a book on Amazon.
Buyer beware; there are costs more important than your money.
As for the many coincidences between 'Raven' and Moore (far more than mentioned here) - well, we shall see, won't we.
Edit update: Well, well; I guess we did see. Click to enlarge.
Edit update: Just like last year with the Rochelle Moore incidents, the group that brought her thefts and lies to light have since had a number of people descend on their group page, insulting, harrassing and in one case, spewing the most vile and base language. Some, if not most of these people, are obvious fake accounts, deleted soon after posting. A la Moore style, many post and then delete their posts so they cannot be reported. Same Scheiße, different day.
Edit update/shortcut: For those with attention deficit or lacking the patience to read the posts following this one (and Chops does understand); the above incidents are what started the entire Raven Avalon contingent forming the hate groups, and ultimately, their 'Goblin Hunter' alt putting out the 'hate list' that targeted so many in the pagan community & making the rounds on FB.
Chops thinks this was a very extreme reaction to someone merely being found out for lying about pictures. Perhaps the real concern is credibility and book profits - and having to reinvent herself all over again.
Once again, and all-too-familiar: Chops is forced to raise it's virtual pen and warn of reprobates.
Newest entry onto the field of play is the self-styled Lady Raven Avalon, who claims she is the high priestess of a Black Raven Coven, and an experienced witch, mentor and teacher of seminars of more than 40 years. She lists her location as Wiltshire, UK, but no one has ever heard of her in Wiltshire or anywhere else. Hers, and the 'coven' name spontaneously appeared on the internet this past February; all pushing her (self-published) books for sale. Facebook, Gather, PaganSpace.net, Twitter, Blogger, etc - all accounts made within a day or two of each other, and most never returned to after placing the book ad and links (drive traffic and up search engine ratings = $$).
From what Chops has read of the self-publishings so far, they seem to rehash the most simplistic Wiccan/Witch info that is freely available everywhere on the web. Raven's sudden appearance with no prior history or presence in the pagan communities or online; the claims and sales spam, is all incredibly reminiscent of Rochelle Moore (aka Zara Alcott) ; and most especially to include her use of Facebook to solicite $$ and naive alcolytes. Said acolytes who of course would never think to ask for real references or proof of her claims before tossing fawning bright blessing$ all over her.
First coming to our attention as a copyright infringer, Raven then solidified Chops attention when she repeatedly lied, in the face of overwhelming evidence, that certain pictures and paintings were of herself, and done by a friend named P. Faust, whom Chops suspects is one of a long line of alts. This was utterly Moore-esque. The following screenshots are used with permission.
From Ravens Facebook profile:
When this came to light, Raven insisted that her profile pic was a photograph of herself taken by a friend click for larger image:
At the same time that she was typing the lie, the professional artist who painted the picture, Mary McAndrew was contacted and made clear that it was her artwork, copyrighted and watermarked, and she had not given permission or gifted the art to this Raven person (as Raven claimed elsewhere). Raven immediately went on a counterattack largely through alts, trying to raise sympathy for her persecution amongst her group followers, and attacking the people who had caught her out. More Moore-ishness..
On the heels of the above incident came another:
This time she claimed her profile pic (another negative-ized image, above, right) was a photo of her taken by a friend (sound familiar?). Apparently Mz. Raven doesn't seem to realize that simply making a picture a negative image doesn't fool too many people. She is not Olivia Wilde, the actress pictured. Another round of denial and lies ensued. She is still using this Olivia image on a few websites.
Then, again...not four days after the first two. This time she labeled the stolen photo as herself, and added her alts name as the painter:
True to form, the image is someone elses property and copyright: Maggie Sottoro, LLC.
She is still using the above stolen photo as her own at her Gather profile. EDIT: It has been removed from that profile, but Olivia Wildes negative image remains.
Two notes - Raven claims the stolen Maggie Sotero, Ltd image is a painting of her done by P. Faust in 2009; Maggie Sotero didn't produce the dress prior to 2011 for the current line. Also, on her PaganSpace profile, created this March 2011, Raven claims to be 55 years old, and a practicing witch for 50 years. Eh? So Maggie Sotero's wedding dress model is actually the 52 year old Raven Avalon.
large image, click to enlarge
Following these embarrassments, Raven and her alts (and one or two acolytes) called for a group persecution of the Facebook group and administrator of the group that busted her (seen this before?). Note the attempt to make her followers feel they were all being attacked to twist her deception and theft into some form of group persecution:
...as well as to try to use them to get Lesley and the groups that caught her out banned.
Chops is amazed at the gall; but moreso at the insistent lies after proof positive is clear for all to see, including the culprit. Is this the hallmark of a compulsive liar, a substance-abuse problem, or just sheer stupidity? We may never know. In any event, following all of the above, Mz. priestess 'experienced teacher of newbies' closed her Lady Raven Avalon Facebook page, and directed all to her Black Raven Coven page.
In conclusion - although Chops anticipates more to come - we would like to warn newcomers to Paganism to please beware of those claiming titles and experience and who-knows-what, without a shred of evidence to back it up, and especially if not a soul in the real-world pagan community has ever heard of them. You have every right - and in fact, an obligation to yourself - to ask questions, to ask for credentials and references. A good teacher would appreciate your common sense and be happy to prove themselves. A good teacher would not be tossing 'titles' around. Also, ask around; don't rely on just their word, no matter how saccharine love & light they first appear.
These cautions are quadrupled in the online world, where anyone can say anything, create fake alts to back themselves up, and pay to have books published and listed on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Literally anyone can publish anything today; it isn't read, selected for publishing, or anything else. If you can pay, upload it to the publisher and purchase an IBN number, *poof* - you have a book on Amazon.
Buyer beware; there are costs more important than your money.
As for the many coincidences between 'Raven' and Moore (far more than mentioned here) - well, we shall see, won't we.
Edit update: Well, well; I guess we did see. Click to enlarge.
Edit update: Just like last year with the Rochelle Moore incidents, the group that brought her thefts and lies to light have since had a number of people descend on their group page, insulting, harrassing and in one case, spewing the most vile and base language. Some, if not most of these people, are obvious fake accounts, deleted soon after posting. A la Moore style, many post and then delete their posts so they cannot be reported. Same Scheiße, different day.
Edit update/shortcut: For those with attention deficit or lacking the patience to read the posts following this one (and Chops does understand); the above incidents are what started the entire Raven Avalon contingent forming the hate groups, and ultimately, their 'Goblin Hunter' alt putting out the 'hate list' that targeted so many in the pagan community & making the rounds on FB.
Chops thinks this was a very extreme reaction to someone merely being found out for lying about pictures. Perhaps the real concern is credibility and book profits - and having to reinvent herself all over again.
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I find it interesting that these photos of her look no where NEAR her 60s...since she's been teaching for 40 years, presume she started in her late teens or twenties......HOW DOES SHE LOOK 20? I mean, my family has great genes (we stay young looking for a looong time), but NOTHING like that!
ReplyDeleteThey aren't photos of her. Scammers will never publish real photos of themselves.
ReplyDeleteShe's also re-posted an unretouched photo of Sorita D'Este, claiming it to be herself participating in Sorita's annual "Sacred Fires" ritual. As one of the authors who contributed to the Sacred Fires anthology, I can state unequivocally that "raven avalon" most certainly is NOT Sorita.
ReplyDeleteSehnga: I meant that people (and her) should REALIZE that there is no way with her claims of teaching for 40 years (making her around 60), that should could look in her 20s--and how they fell for it (or she thought everyone would)! Sorry if my sarcasm wasn't clear! ;)
ReplyDeleteIt might be worth noting that both "Rochelle Moore" and "Raven Avalon" have even plagiarized their styles. The use of "sock puppets," claims of "persecution," and threats of "legal retribution" are all hallmarks of the occult world's most infamous internet troll, whose name is well known to those wise to him.
ReplyDeleteThe group that was very actice in exposing her, The Coven of the Fluffie Bunnies The Sparliee Editun, seems to have been removed from Facebook, as well as the accounts linked with one of the admins (her personal account and her blog account). I wonder if Raven Avalon's sock puppets are to blame for this
ReplyDeleteThey have also started numerous groups and pages on Facebook, demanding that everyone report the people who caught them out. They of course are crying persecution again. Here are two of the groups:
ReplyDeleteGOBLIN HUNTER - tracks down excaped nasty Facebook Goblins
https://www.facebook.com/groups/allelujah
allelujah@groups.facebook.com
and:
fluffy Bunnie coven and there abuse of genuine people.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/203634423015806
Both groups are filled with alts, many of them Rochelle Moore & Co alts, listed on this blog in a post from last year. If Facebook would just check IP's, they could delete at least 50 fake accounts of the person/s behind all this.
Somewhat amusing is the blurb from the second group listed above:
"this group is for the nice people that have been abused by the coven of fluffy bunnies. say what you like here. message to bunnies if i find you here i will delete you. you are nasty horrid people that take a good cause and turn it bad."
Plagiarism and theft of other people's copyrighted works is a good cause? Oh, dear. Surely 'Joanne Nelson'(admin)did not think that one through.
In addition, they descended to absolute bottom; they stole photos of one of the Fluffy Bunnie members children and posted them elsewhere; presumably to upset or frighten the mother. For shame. When one keeps in mind that this Black Raven Coven exists only to sell self-published books, seeing them resort to such rank tactics merely to preserve their hoped-for profits of their Lulu trash is beyond tolerance.
ReplyDeleteOne final note: this online coven is constantly preaching 'love & light', 'harm none' and 'karma.' They then posted a Satanist spell designed to hurt someone; directly above a post stating that you should never 'use the power' to harm another. (And they claim to exist to help newbies.)
Chops is amazed. Or would be, if this sort of thing hadn't become usual behavior for this ilk.
Aelwyn:
ReplyDeleteAgreed. On her Gather page, Raven Avalon states at two different comments that she is 50+ and another says 60-ish. Note in the stolen wedding advertisement, she claims her friend P. Faust took the photo of her a couple of months ago. The model is perhaps late 20's.
This is bizarre, as one would think anyone normal would remember not to leave such obvious trails of lies around.