"Malleus Maleficarum - Possibly One of the Most Bloodstained Document in the History of Our World"

Let's take a quick peek at  the RM's Malleus info.  (If you wish to see the original, just search the post title.)

RM writes: "Malleus Maleficarum - Possibly One of the Most Bloodstained Document in the History of Our World 
MALLEUS MALEFICARUM (hammer of the Witches) is possibly, one of the most bloodstained document in the history of our world. This book was originally written in Latin in 1487 by two supposedly learned and highly respected experts on the subject of Witchcraft. The Malleus, co-written by Henry Kramer and James Sperenger, was the "rulebook" for the detention and persecution of Witches."
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I have a problem with the hyperbole applied above.

Amongst a certain type (or two) floating amidst the pagan community, it is fashionable to try to generate affinity for 'the persecuted witches of yore' (nevermind that they were almost all avowed Xtians); and the less-ethical will frequently use this fabrication to generate a cultish group-think; an 'us/them' mentality amongst their followers. We heard this all the time in the daft Burning Times* discussions of 20 years ago, in which historical fact and context were abandoned for the sake of establishing an artificial, consistent 'witch history.' Today, thankfully, most of the pagan community is well aware of the error in the above, and are much more aware of historical facts. However, there are those who still spread misinformation (scroll down at link) and seek sensationalism for their own purposes; even using the word Holocaust - as if the religious upheavals of the time had specifically targeted non-Xtians.

Malleus was not written 'by two supposedly learned and highly respected experts on the subject of Witchcraft.'  It was written by  Heinrich (not 'Henry') Kramer. It is in doubt amongst scholars that James (Jakob) Sprenger (not 'Sperenger') had little or anything to do with it's authorship, but was associated with it, by Kramer, to try to lend authenticity to his work.

Kramer, who was an Inquisitor in Germany, was denounced by the Inquisition in 1490 - a mere three years after he published Malleus. Apparently frustrated (and quite possibly a misogynist), he made one of the first attempts at a systematic persecution of witches in the region of Tyrol, Spain in 1484. It failed miserably, with Kramer being thrown out of the territory, and called a senile old man by the area bishop.***

It has been speculated** that writing the Malleus immediately after this event was both his revenge and self-justification. It was certainly an effort at fear-mongering, and the Gutenberg press provided for it's larger distribution. Most importantly, it threw down the gauntlet amongst the wavering Xtian factions as to whether or not witches did indeed exist and/or have evil powers - a point wavered on amongst the Xtian leadership for centuries - and clearly demonized those that would oppose this view.

The Malleus in no way represents any kind of pagan persecution, and to present it as such is ludicrous and uninformed; it was a political machination. It represents the religio-political conflicts of the Reformation (and conflict between Church canon and doctrine) - and one old, angry and likely sadistic man at odds with his religious leadership. 

RM writes:    "As the centuries rolled on, after the publication of the Malleus, punishment for heretics became more violent. When the Court of the Inquisition was founded, a bloody crusade was established."

Misleading and factually wrong. The German theologian, Johannes Nider's treatise, Formicarius, of 1437 clearly establishes that torture and trials involving witchcraft accusations (largely secular) were already in place by the early 15th century; half a century before Malleus. The Malleus had no relationship with the founding of the Inquisitional Court, which was founded in 1231; not to persecute, but to standardize heresy trials by insuring that a qualified Church representative, not a layman, would be assessing ones heresy and salvation potential.

Perhaps RM only looked at the Spanish Inquisition; but that still wouldn't be accurate, as it's primary persecution was the Jewish population.

It may also be useful to note that charges of heresy included coin counterfeiting and adultery, and were primarily handled by secular courts. Men were hanged, women were strangled/hanged and then burned, upon  conviction. Only a few countries burned anyone alive for heretic charges, most notably southwest Germany. (Apparently the practice of burning post-mortem ceased in England after a woman convicted of heresy did not die of the preceding strangulation, and public pressure to cease such a punishment ensued after witnesses observed her hideous death.)

In conclusion, know your history and/or do your own research. Anyone can get a book listed on Amazon these days; do not assume 'authorship' infers authority.

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* Burning Times - a phrase made popular by ultra-feminist Mary Daly in her 1978 book, Gyn/Ecology: The Meta-Ethics of Radical Feminism. It was introduced to the pagan world after being appropriated by Starhawk. It's legacy is a perfect example of the Telephone Game (how errors repeat and develop):

In "The Spiral Dance", Starhawk stated that up to nine million people, mostly women, were killed during the Witch Hunts in early modern Europe. The number was based on an article by Mary Daly, who based it on the writings of the 19th century feminist Matilda Joslyn Gage.

Source: Casualty Figures

I have seen people online claim that the phrase was coined by Gerald Gardner, but I haven't seen any documentation of this claim.

**/*** Reformation: Europe's House Divided, Diarmaid MacCulloch, 2004. 
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RM interview

Listen to the full interview here.

Saturday, June 10, 2010; internet interview

Jeffrey Seelman: We're going to take a commercial now - or maybe a few - and when we come back we'll be with Irish paranormal author and Celtic witch, Rochelle Moore, so stay tuned to StarClear Radio.

Jeffrey Seelman: Hi we're back on StarClear radio, and today's guest is Irish paranormal author and Celtic witch Rochelle Moore. Rochelle Moore, hello, how are you?

Rochelle Moore: Hello, merry meet Sir Jeffrey and Amy - lovely to meet you.

Amy Lamb: Thank you Rochelle

Jeffrey Seelman: Great to meet you as well; I'll read a little bit about you; Rochelle Moore was born in Dublin, Ireland to a family of artists, healers and she is an eclectic witch. Her first book, Karma, a tiny book both *stumbles on next word* multidominational and inspirational was written in 2005. Rochelle then went on to write Aromatherapy & Herbalism, Scents and Spells; beginners to mid-level, which really placed her on the international authors map. Book three, Witch, An Autobiography, was released in January 2009 and Rochelle has appeared on television, radio and with the most recent interview in NY on the David James Live Psychic Show. So, um, Rochelle, you have all sorts of books, you have written, Karma, Aromatherapy and Herbalism, Witch which is an autobiography, Beyond The Third Eye, uhh..Spiritual Whispers - lots of them, just wonderful..

Rochelle Moore: *unintelligible*

Amy Lamb: Beyond The Third Eye is the most recent book with uh Pamela Yarborough as your publisher and she can be found at AnboroughPublishing.com and

Rochelle Moore: ..she's a fantastic woman..

Amy Lamb:..I will post the link..

Jeffrey Seelman: I would like to know the difference between Wicca and witchcraft, Rochelle.

Rochelle Moore: Ok, um, well, I ah I am an eclectic witch, um I was born into a family that goes back generations. Now a witch is a tradition,

Amy Lamb: ..mm

Rochelle Moore: ..it is not a religion. Whereas Wicca is a new religion which was introduced by ahm, Gerald Gardner in the 1950's. It's a religion -you can't be a member of any other religion if you're Wicca, and from Gradner's introduction of Gardenerian Wicca, then we have a couple of offshoots. From that there's Alexandrian, *The- unintelligible*, Dianic and all the rest. But they're all particular religions, whereas a witch is not any religion it's just based on tradition only.

Amy Lamb: I think that's so important for our listeners

Rochelle Moore: ..yes, yes, well I..

Amy Lamb: ..to know, Rochelle

Rochelle Moore: ..that's why I wrote Witch so many people said oo, ooo what is a witch, what's the difference between being a witch and Wicca, you know? That was the main spur(?) behind me writing that was to explain that you know, it's a nature-based religion, um, it's based very much on karma, um and you know, the laws of cause and effect and the Three-fold Law, whatever you send out will come back to you thrice; whereas Wicca is actually a religion. You know?

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: That's the main difference between the two.

Jeffrey Seelman: That's interesting. What brought you - or drove you - to write your autobiography?

Rochelle Moore: I think my father -like I said, so many people would come to me and ask, well, you know, I'm travelling in northern Ireland and Europe, I do a lot of seminars and meetings and events, and like this, the summer solstice is coming up and it's the first time I've been in Ireland in two years so I'm going to go to the ancestral meetingplace which is the hill of Tara and you know, I wrote this book to explain to people the difference between a religion and a tradition.

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: Because I have so many people saying 'well I'm great(?) raised Protestant or Catholic' or whatever, and they go 'Can I be a witch?' And I go, 'well, yes ya can'

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: ..and then they're going 'well I don't understand that' you know because there's um, covens and stuff and I said - I tried to explain that in the book that you don't have to be a member of a coven, that's Wiccan; you just have to be earth-based, harm none, and very much into nature and the seasons..

Amy Lamb: So... can, can anyone become a witch or practice that

Rochelle Moore: Yes,

Amy Lamb: ..tradition?

Rochelle Moore: absolutely. Absolutely, Amy, yes. Without a doubt. And a lot of people know already, before - they know themselves that they're tuned into different things, they're tuned into the seasons, they're tuned into the spirit world; they know but they just don't know what to do with it.

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: And that really is the reason why I wrote my autobiography, just to explain to people that you can be a witch; that you can be a Jewish witch, you can be a Catholic witch; it's all about tradition. And basing yourself on harm none. You know?

Jeffrey Seelman: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: And that's really what, what Witch is all about, it just explains the difference between the uh varying traditions and between Wicca, which is a religion, and the witch which is not - it is an ancient tradition based -going way back - to um, healers, shamans, and um midwives ..you know, things like that.

Jeffrey Seelman: Mhm. Is there a difference, Rochelle, between a witch and a Celtic witch?

Rochelle Moore: Well, a Celtic witch, I would base myself very much on the traditions of the druids..um, it depends on..where you're born, or what input you had through your life, do you know what I mean, where you're from, your culture, you're background, my own background is um I was born in Ireland, I was raised in ireland, ah, so..my own background, my great grandmother was an amazing woman, and she was a psychic, ah, and people came from all over Ireland to see her and I'm going back now to the 19..1920's? 1930's? And uh Ireland was a very, a very very poor place at the time; she lived in Dublin and people came from all over Ireland to see her; her name was Georgina and she never ever charged anything for helping people. Now that is very important. I do know - like she always said to me, 'never charge for what you do if you're helping somebody.' You may take a gift - now in those days it was a biscuit -

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Jeffrey Seelman: Ah..*laughter & unintelligible comment*

Rochelle Moore: ..and that's the way she lived her life and she helped many people from all over the country and she became quite famous. She actually passed it down from her mother down through to myself and my sisters. You know?

Jeffrey Seelman: That was wonderful.

Rochelle Moore: Yeah, yeah - great tradition there, you know?

Jeffrey Seelman: Absolutely wonderful. I know you wrote a book called Karma - what are your feelings on karma, Rochelle?

Rochelle Moore: Ahh..well, karma to me is based on the witches threefold law; what goes around comes around. Um..it's a moral sense of spirituality and a love of our universe. And, ah, you know, it's a very basic belief system, um, but it's very very deep to a witch and we must abide by it at all times. Whatever we send out will come back to us whether it's good or bad, it will return to us threefold. So karma is, would basically be the center, the cause and effect of everything that I do will come back to me thrice.

Amy Lamb: Hm

Rochelle Moore: So I try to go through my life and basically effect means results or cause means reason and effects means results.

Amy Lamb: Hm

Rochelle Moore: So I go through my life and I try not to harm anybody, harm nature I'm just basically doing my best it's actually a way of living rather than a belief.

Jeffrey Seelman: Do you think that this is science? Do you think karma is science, uh,

Rochelle Moore: Oo, no..

*everyone laughs*

Jeffrey Seelman: ...okay

Rochelle Moore: Well, if you read Beyond The Third Eye and..the paranormal book, um, I write quite a bit about science because I - basically it's about you know, what happens when we die? Uh, where do we go? You know, and I was writing more about Roswell and things like that..are there are other realms and dimensions - and I certainly believe that there are other realms and dimensions. But science - are not going to cut their teeth on me(?) with regard to evolution, because there's too much of a gap between..um, you know, the Missing Link.

Amy Lamb: Hm

Rochelle Moore: Well, I do believe in speciel evolution, but I don't believe that we all crawled out of the pond. And that's very - to a lot of people that's like, 'Oh! Rochelle, you're not, you know how can you not believe that we came from this and that or the other' - I just don't believe it. So..scientifically, they've done so much, it's all based on fact, they actually tie themselves into knots; you know, so, to get to, like, what you were saying about Roswell and that;

Jeffrey and Amy: *polite murmers*

Rochelle Moore: ..if they had that information which I truly believe that they do, that should be made public, like the French government started up a website where any sightings of UFO's - this is about five years ago - anything that has to do with extraterrestrial or beings from another world or any sort of things that they come upon they post onto the government website. I find it to be - I did a lot of reseach into Roswell and Montek(?) and all the rest and uh I find the American government and the Irish and some European governments are very tight-lipped on it because they don't want the masses to know.

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: You know, because uh I suppose it's like the latest flu epidemic , uh, I wouldn't get that if they gave me a million dollars. Because, er, to me, the injections they're giving you have mercury and this and that and it's not natural, you know. And having said that, I actually got the flu myself, and I recovered from it and my friend, a very good friend of mine got the, the *unintelligible* injection, and she is now on steroids, she can't breathe, so, you know, - it's basically go with what you feel is right.

Amy Lamb: Hm

Jeffrey Seelman: I, I agree, Rochelle, I uh have never had a flu shot..

Rochelle Moore: Good.

Jeffrey Seelman: I have come down with some of the flues, uh, I think I did come down with this latest version when it came around uh last winter.. uh I got sick like I do when I get the flu which is not very often..and..it went away.

Rochelle Moore: Yes, exactly, it will take it's course. Now if you have *unintelligible* an underlying physical problem, then the chances are that some - that it'll develop and it could cause pneumonia and it could kill you. But the flu can do that to anybody. You know, so - my own, I have children myself and I wouldn't let them get it there'd be no way, and now it's disappeared, it's gone. *laugh* And the UN is still waiting to bring it down from Red Alert, and I would say that they *unintelligible* next month. For all the scandal worldwide, and the vaccinations and the.. you know, to me, this becomes very conspiracy theorist, um, it's just - that was just a dry run for whatever they have planned for us next.

*hosts laugh*

Jeffrey Seelman: Uh, oh, I can't wait *chuckle*

*more laughter*

Amy Lamb: Rochelle, not to switch gears on you here, hi -but something you said earlier piqued my curiosity and you mentioned about what you put out comes back to you threefold

Rochelle Moore: Yeah.

Amy Lamb: ..how do you - what do you do at, at StarClear with deal with negative emotional energy and how to fend that off; how do you handle it if someone is sending you bad energy, or if someone wishes you bad, what do you do, how do you handle that..

Rochelle Moore: *unintelligible* Ohhh, yes..

Amy Lamb: ..without it coming back on you?

Rochelle Moore: Yeah, well, personally um *unintelligible*..because I am a little bit controversial and *unintelligible* this generation my autobiography, Witch, and um, because I look at science and I look at a lot of things - a lot of people - either they like you or they don't like you, you know? So basically I just have to ground myself, meditate and ground myself, - I really - I think one of the most important things in life is - an old man once said to me, 'Life is too short to stuff mushrooms' -

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: I said, 'What can you mean by that, you know?' And he said, 'Well, if you have that mushroom and you're stuffing away and worrying about everything, life's too short for that; too short to stuff mushrooms.' *chuckle* If people don't like me, they don't like me. So I ground myself and um, just get on with my own life and, and there's an awful lot of people that write to me, um, I have a page on Facebook there, I get 250-500 emails a day there, people looking for help on something or people saying 'Oh, I read your book and I think it's positively dreadful, I don't agree with your theory on this that or the other,' you know; *unintelligible* I mean, you've got to take the ups with the downs.

Amy Lamb: Right. You know, it's so true and Jeff and I talk about this all the time with our clients and we have to remind people that, you know, one out of ten people just isn't gonna like us, and that's just a fact, and all we can do is try to do our best and try to protect ourselves from any, any negative -

Rochelle Moore: Yeah, yeah, you must ground yourself, love and protect yourself -

Amy Lamb: Yes.

Rochelle Moore: and like in any work that you do, you have to protect yourself in any aspect of it, but you know, so - as you said, one out of five might like you, and one out of five might dislike you -

Amy Lamb: Right..

Rochelle Moore: ..so you just stay with who you are, be the best that you can, and try to help people.

*Amy murmering assent*

Jeffrey Seelman: It's good advice, Rochelle, I know that uh, uh, I'm a psychic and an exorcist and I've been in this professionally for twnety years and I've had run-ins..

Rochelle Moore: Yes.

Jeffrey Seelman: ..and a lot of resistance, but I'm used to it, um, and I noticed, I was looking up - Amy found something this morning um that we think that you wrote called the Mirror Spell.

Rochelle Moore: Oh that's right, yes, yeah.

*cuts off Jeff*

Rochelle Moore: I write many spells, I think that would be - I don't know which - I'm halfway through two books at the moment, uh, so I don't know whether to go with a spellbook, because an awful lot of people write me and say 'Hey uh I just want to read candles or candle magic or I want to do, uh, I want to banish a ghost from the house or whatever, you know, uh - so I have an awful lot of them written down but the mirror spell is to send back, it sends back any negativity to whoever sent it to you without any coming back to you whatsoever.

Amy Lamb: Oh wow.

Jeffrey Seelman: That's wonderful!

Amy Lamb: So it's just returning to them what they put out -

Rochelle Moore: Yes, returned to them with no malice, just -

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: ..you know, they're the person with the malice to send to you in the first place, you're just returning it to them, and, you know, basically you're just saying, you know, whatever you send me I send back to you; no malice - and once again the law of karma comes in, 'cause, it's there, *unintelligible* karmathe first place.

Amy Lamb: I love that.

Jeffrey Seelman: Do you teach people how to do that? I know at StarClear, we have our own mirror shields that I, uh, that we teach, uh, different clients. Do you have your own particular techniques that you teach people - how to protect themselves with the mirror?

Rochelle Moore: Yes, yes I do, yep, ah -well, I've travelled quite a bit now, I've been travelling - I'm only back from England in the last, last week - yesterday, actually - so I do, and I was over in America over in Salem there last year 'cause I do - I can teach people and an awful lot of people would write to me and - they're never quite sure what to say to me, but I often find that people are very open and they don't hold back - they tell me an awful lot about *unintelligible* - everything is completely confidential, you know..

Jeffrey Seelman: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: ..I try to help..now, I only - last week - got an email from someone who had some neighbors they'd moved into the house; the - they reckoned that the house had bad negative energy, so she was *unintelligible* so I sent her one of my cleansing spells - which had been handed down to me from my great-great-great-great grandmother - and she wrote back that they're hey they're really happy now, everything had settled down and uh there's nothing there anymore *unintelligible* those work and I love to hear that, I love when people come back and thank me; 'yeah that worked, I wish I had money for that, you know what I mean.' *laughs*

Jeffrey Seelman: Yeah, I sure do!

Rochelle Moore: Yeah, yeah

Jeffrey Seelman: What is your philosophy about higher spirits? And spirit guides - do they help you in your work?

Rochelle Moore: Oh yes, *unintelligible* I myself, now, um - ever since the first time I experienced the spirit world, uh, I remember - I recall - when I was three months old, now I didn't know I was three months I was speaking to my mother and I said I was in the pram I was little then and there was a lamb, a coloured lamb, hanging from the pram, and she said 'how the heck did you remember that, you were only three months of age' and ever since that, ever since that, any time that I need anything, I get guidance. When I was expecting the first child, it was not an easy pregnancy, and uh, one night when I was asleep my granmother and my grandfather - they'd all passed away- and my grandmother from my other side of the family who'd I'd never met because she died before - well before - I was born; thy came to me and said 'everything's going to be okay' then they sat and they talked to me; they came back *unintelligible* 'why don't you come out' *garbled* walking back in the field with rock *garbled* my parents side 'why don't you come over to the house and see mum and dad?' They said 'No, we can't come any further than this.

Amy Lamb: Mm

Rochelle Moore: Now, when I was telling my mother that I'd met her mother - now I'd never seen her, she died when my mother was 11 years of age - and I described exactly what she was wearing; and my mother and my aunt *unintelligible* as well *unintelligible* 'Oh my goodness.' There was no way I could - I've never seen a photograph of her, I've never seen nothing you know? Anytime I need help, I ask for it, and I always get it.

Jeffrey Seelman: Do you think that there is um like a supreme being that rules over these higher spirits ..uh..have you found that to be true?

Rochelle Moore: Did you read my book? *laughs*

Jeffrey Seelman: No, I'm sorry Rochelle, I did not..

*all laugh*

Rochelle Moore: I, uh..I, I can't tell you guys the end of it. But, I've looked back - I've looked right through - everything from the Mayans, right back through witches, Mayans - all the way through history..the Templars..the whole lot -this is in Beyond The Third Eye- now Beyond The Third Eye is in 12 chapters, I think; and..each chapter is a story on it's own and you can't do that, you can't read chapter three and then start back at one because it wouldn't make sense..

Jeffrey Seelman: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: ..cause if you read chapter one, after that, you're not gonna settle for a while...because it's an extremely deep book, and as I've said, I've looked at twelve different religions, including Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Native American Indian witches..and I mean witches going back as far as Malleus Maleficarum which was 1472 and Catholic and Protestant and all these different religions and I've looked at every culture, and that book Beyond The Third Eye has taken me a lifetime to write because it's really a 'why are we here?' 'what happens when we die?' uh, and, you know - what's the purpose of life. So..the end..if I answer that question, Jeffrey, I'd be telling you the end of the book. *laughter*

Jeffrey Seelman: Ohhh! Don't tell us we..

*all laughing*

Rochelle Moore: It's taken me years to write you'll just have to read it! *laughing*

Amy Lamb: Yes, everybody go to Amazon.com and look up Rochelle Moore because we need to know the ending, so *laughs*

Jeffrey Seelman: I wanted to know, uh, uh..

Amy Lamb: Actually, I have a question in the chatroom if it's ok with you..

Jeffrey Seelman: Yes, yes, please - go ahead -

Amy Lamb: 'Um, please it's more of a comment and I just was curious to know Rochelle's opinion'; um one of our lovely people in the chatroom has um, made a comment and she says 'I don't usually do many of my spells based on books or instructions, I just go with what I feel is right and needed in a spell - what's your opinion on that, is it ok to just go with what you feel, or do you have to follow a recipe?'

Rochelle Moore: Um no, you don't necessarily have to follow a recipe. Now, I was very lucky as I've said, as I was a hereditary witch, so things are handed down, ah, which is commonly called a Book of Shadows. A Book of Shadows is just basically everything that you learn, in your lifetime. I have my great-great-great-grandmothers Book of Shadows *garbled* and my great-great and blah blah has added to it and I've added to it as well and I'll hand that down to the next generation. But there are certain areas that involve ah, yes, you must follow certain guidelines, especially with invoking a circle or invoking something or other if that's what you're into particularily *garbled* Me, particularily, I wouldn't be into that, you know..

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Rochelle Moore: ..no, intuition is so important; you know yourself - deep down, what's right and what's wrong.

Amy Lamb: Mhm

Jeffrey Seelman: I have a -

Rochelle Moore: So..yes, it's good to follow eh..hm..you know, a certain way, and guidelines with regard to certain styles; when you're doing something more personal that isn't very involved, um..go with your intuition.

Jeffrey Seelman: Ohh, interesting. I have a question on psychic ability I'd love to ask you after this commercial break. Stay tuned, we'll be right back.

Jeffrey Seelman: We'd like to ask you, Rochelle, about your work with the paranormal.

Rochelle Moore: Ok, ok - the paranormal. (Obviously reading off something) Well, one of the very first words that comes to mind when most people hear the word is ghost demons spirits or angels. When in fact the true definition of it is beyond the range of ordinary experience or scientific explanation. Umm..it's divided into several sections; the supernatural, unnatural, ghosts, hauntings, the possibility of life after death, future telling and clairvoyance, esp, and etc. (Stops reading) I am very much, and I very much believe in the paranormal, I believe in psychic ability because I've had lots of experience myself, and since the beginning of time, humans curiosity of the unknown lured us to want to answer questions, you know? So, um, basically, my own experiences as a psychic with regard to when I was very very young I would have dreams that would um, come true, and when I used to go to people, you know, like girls my own age or my peers they'd be 'well you're very strange.' *laugh*

*hosts laugh*

Rochelle Moore: Um, they got used to me after a while. You know, 'cause the paranormal falls into three main areas; and so..it's really..with regards to ghostly apparitions, um, telepathy and ESP, I would be very very tuned into that area, ya know?

Amy Lamb: I have a question - actually it's another comment from the chat room and I wanted to know your thoughts again on it. Um, someone in the chat room is saying that they use banishing spells for getting rid of negativity around her house;

Rochelle Moore: Yes, its -

Amy Lamb: ..can spells help with getting rid of negativity from spirits and negativity from guests and things like that?

Rochelle Moore: Well, absolutely, absolutely. A friend of mine, had her husband inherited a desk. You know you hear stories about furniture being haunted *garbled* come across it in my life, and this is only about ten years ago; and every time they - they had the desk in the room, and she would not go in there, so we had to duel that one down and eventually it worked; it ah, ah, took three times now, because this was such a powerful entity that possessed the desk, that's the only way I could *garbled* - I don't like the words possessed but that's the way that it felt, you know? Ah..and, so, yes, spellwork in regards to banishing or candle magick or anything like that, you know, ah.. I would use spellwork a lot, on anything like that, on banishing negative energy.

Jeffrey Seelman: Have you ever come across a negative spirit in your work?

Rochelle Moore: Oh yes, without a doubt, without a doubt. Well, just as you come across negative people, in life! You come across negative people in death. Ah..I always ground myself and meditate prior to doing them; I used to read the tarot and all that sort of thing but ah, you know, do with the witch runes which is my own preference now, is the witch runes; because, I found, when I was about, oh, ten or twelve the Ouija board came in, and I was like - I didn't - I found that opened too many, too many realms...and, certain things could come in that you wouldn't want coming in to your life. And it can be dangerous if, if in the wrong hands. So um yes, I do use spellwork to handle negative energies in my life who have tried to upset my life. Um, as was said, they're just like people; I meet people, I speak to people online, and people write to me daily; and some are negative and some are positive and that's what you get in the afterlife, you know?

Amy Lamb: Now Rochelle, what are witch runes? I've heard of runes, little stones - just for our listeners, so they can understand.

Rochelle Moore: Alright. Ah..witch runes are stones; they have got - ah, not heiroglyph - but they have got drawings on them, you know? They number 13 in total and it's like the Druids divination sticks that they throw. Depending on what they throw, how they fall, you can learn to read them. I've actually written an article on Associated Content about the witch runes; you know, it tells you how to make your own witch runes, and how to decorate them, what symbols to put on them and how to read them.

Amy Lamb: Mm.

Rochelle Moore: A lot of people want to hear about the girl who had my book ...about the book, Witch, my autobiography, and she always read the tarot but it was never as exact as using the runes. And she has now *more garbled*, which again, it's feedback; I like to speak to people, I like to hear what they think, even if it doesn't fit me or it's negative or whatever, it's feedback from my fans. (*This sentence isn't exact; had trouble catching parts of it.*)

Amy Lamb: Mm, I agree, me too. It's always good to get feedback ..

Rochelle Moore: Yeah..

Amy Lamb: ..positive or negative, ah, all, wha -

Jeffrey Seelman: What is your take on psychic ability, Rochelle - do you consider yourself to be a psychic?

Rochelle Moore: Uh..if it's an area in which I would consider myself to be a psychic yes, but an area that would be very private and personal I don't use it commercially; um, I would - I can pick up on things the minute I walk into a room. Um, I was visiting with my mother and my aunt once, to um, ah, lunch; um...and *garbled* in northern Ireland, very old house, with a big old staircase and behind the one I could see a spirit on the staircase. Now I didn't say anything because they were having their coffee and I didn't want to bother them *laughs* but about six months later I was talking to the person who worked in the hotel she was the manageress and asked who was that lady behind the staircase. She had a big set of keys, like hanging from a uniform, um, a brown old-fashioned dress and like a bonnet on; huge big ring with loads of keys on it, and they said 'Oh, that's such-and-such, she was the housekeeper here and she had the key to all the rooms' and they said 'sometimes we feel her around in the kitchen and when we come in to start up the hotel at like six in the morning, at five in the morning and you feel like she's watching you, you know?' And I said, 'Oh ya, she's no harm' no, really - she came across as just going about her business like a residual haunting, you know, just going about her business, not bothering anybody. But then again, having said that, I have encountered, I was staying in Ashford Castle in County Mayo one time, and we were given a beautiful bedroom and I went to bed and my partner - we had a huge bed now, it was like you could fit six in you know *laugh* - um, I was just about to go to sleep when I got scratching on my shoulder; and I said 'What are you doing?' and he said, 'What are you talking about?' and once again, three scratches - like, one, two, three - on the shoulder. I truned around I put my arm up I said 'no way you coud've touched me now.' I just said, 'well, whoever you are, I want to go to sleep now. I know you're here, so..you go on with your way and I'll go with mine.' And that was the end of that, you know.

Jeffrey Seelman: That was the end of it..

Rochelle Moore: So I have experienced it a lot.

Jeffrey Seelman: *laughing* We were..

Rochelle Moore: That one was a little bit scary, because it actually hurt. *laughs*

Jeffrey Seelman: Yeah, yeah, I've also, in my work as an exorcist, been wounded, uh, um, on a psychic level and even on a physical level from negative spirits; after 20 years, it's bound to happen a few times.

Rochelle Moore: Oh dear Jeffrey..

Jeffrey Seelman: So I know what you mean; going to people's homes, where there are terrible things, uh, very negative spirits, uh, sometimes very powerful, it's quite profound.

Rochelle Moore: Yeah

Jeffrey Seelman: We were talking during the commercial break about Ireland. And I wanted to know, uh, is Ireland a good power source for the kind of inspiration and work that you do?

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