Following several requests for Chops to make an appearance on Facebook in the last week or two, and especially in the comment section here; Chops created a profile and page on Facebook. We posted in two groups that we were there, and directed anyone to our personal page who wished to speak directly to Chops.
We asked that discussions remain civil and factual, one issue at a time.
The next morning, Jacqueline Bowser claimed to have received a private message, and blamed Chops for it. Even after the person who sent the message publicly spoke up in Bowsers group and stated that she was the author of the message, Bowser continued to portray anger and blame Chops. She claimed she would not speak to Chops because of this message that Chops had nothing to do with. One can only assume that she never expected Chops to come to FB, and had to fabricate a reason to avoid speaking with us. This casts a significant pall on her previous claims of victimhood, in the comments here.
Two days after Chops arrived at FB, Bram Darkraven, admin of Isadore Raven Avalon's/Rochelle Moore's Black Raven Coven, posted to the Chops wall. After Chops responded to him, he deleted the entire conversation.
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Chops feels these actions more or less speak for themselves. It becomes increasingly apparent that none of the people actively involved in the Siobhan/Rochelle Moore/Raven Avalon/Black Raven Coven issues can refute a single claim on this blog. They have every opportunity, and continue to hide, obfuscate, and blame the whistleblowers.
Having been caught out as being Rochelle/Siobhans page, they are now planning on changing to another group page to break the Moore association, apparently:
The basic facts remain:
Raven's coven group page on FB is Rochelle Moore's Witches and Wiccans of Facebook; the title was changed in February when 'Raven' and the coven suddenly appeared online. The coven claims no knowledge of who Rochelle Moore is, yet coven admins who appeared online with Raven and the coven in Feb, linked to Moore's books on their Gather and Twitter pages (now removed.) and used two Moore book covers as coven logos.
On Facebook later, Raven again uses the two Rochelle (Siobhan) Moores book covers as personal and coven logos. When questioned, suspected alt Aidana Silvermist claims Rochelle gave Raven permission to use them. The artist who owned the rights to one cover was contacted, and confirmed that she was told this, and Raven then had to pay the artist a fee to continue to use the art. Coven still claims not to know who Rochelle is.
Raven Avalon appropriated two copyrighted internet photos from their owners, in one case even removing the artists watermark, before claiming both were of herself, photographed and painted by a friend. The real artist painter confirmed her work was stolen and altered.
Following this exposure, Raven went on the attack, using her alts and group members to harass the whistleblowers. The coven posted Rochelle Moore's old Hate List from 2009/2010, and encouraged all members to report the people on the list and get them banned from Facebook. (Side by side lists can be seen in the previous post).
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The Goblin Hunter alt is created, Coven admins join him/her on all his profiles and pages, and s/he repeatedly creates numerous groups, spamming the Hate List and calling for everyone on the list (130+ Facebook pagans) to be Reported and banned. Most profiles and groups are removed by Facebook for Hate Speech.
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Raven Avalon continues to plagiarize. On her coven group info, it initially copied Ravensgrove Coven's information. This was changed, and the current info is palgiarized from uncredited web sources (see image below), yet signed by Raven herself. One wonders why a self-declared third-degree Gardnerian high priestess, who claims to have been teaching and running seminars for years, cannot write a simple introduction paragraph for her own coven statement.
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At this point, the coven members are still continuing to deny their involvement and promotion of the Hate List with attacks, obfuscations, denials and twisted tales. They continue to deny that Raven is Rochelle Moore. They cannot offer even a single explanation as to why their coven is Moore's group page - (among other things.) Raven still refuses to provide any credentials or verification to back her teaching and 3rd-degree Gardnerian high priestess claims, her location, and even her supposed "coven of 20 years." Offers to meet in her supposed Wiltshire location, in a public place, with well-known public figures of the UK pagan leadership are ignored. Any legitimate teacher would be willing to provide their credentials.
Rather ironically, Black Raven Coven has The Seekers Bill of Rights posted as a document:
Those who have read the 'coven books' report that they are a simplistic rehash of basic material found for free all over the internet. The coven 'Book of Shadows' is only 200+ pages, yet covers 60 topics; meaning each topic averages two pages each, front and back. Chops has not reviewed the book, but has had numerous confirmations of the above statements. The Coven charged for the books and also for lessons; they deny this but Chops has screenshots of the pages on this, and unless they have removed it, the post by Llewellyn David explaining the charges for lessons and to send them to an anonymous Paypal email remains in the coven Discussions.
Enough. The connection with Rochelle Moore following last years plagiarism (and re-self-publishing as Zara Alcott) remains quite clear. Chops warns Dear Readers once more about scammers trying to separate pagans from their money. Steer clear, and please pass the word to newbies, especially.
We asked that discussions remain civil and factual, one issue at a time.
The next morning, Jacqueline Bowser claimed to have received a private message, and blamed Chops for it. Even after the person who sent the message publicly spoke up in Bowsers group and stated that she was the author of the message, Bowser continued to portray anger and blame Chops. She claimed she would not speak to Chops because of this message that Chops had nothing to do with. One can only assume that she never expected Chops to come to FB, and had to fabricate a reason to avoid speaking with us. This casts a significant pall on her previous claims of victimhood, in the comments here.
Two days after Chops arrived at FB, Bram Darkraven, admin of Isadore Raven Avalon's/Rochelle Moore's Black Raven Coven, posted to the Chops wall. After Chops responded to him, he deleted the entire conversation.
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Having been caught out as being Rochelle/Siobhans page, they are now planning on changing to another group page to break the Moore association, apparently:
The basic facts remain:
Raven's coven group page on FB is Rochelle Moore's Witches and Wiccans of Facebook; the title was changed in February when 'Raven' and the coven suddenly appeared online. The coven claims no knowledge of who Rochelle Moore is, yet coven admins who appeared online with Raven and the coven in Feb, linked to Moore's books on their Gather and Twitter pages (now removed.) and used two Moore book covers as coven logos.
On Facebook later, Raven again uses the two Rochelle (Siobhan) Moores book covers as personal and coven logos. When questioned, suspected alt Aidana Silvermist claims Rochelle gave Raven permission to use them. The artist who owned the rights to one cover was contacted, and confirmed that she was told this, and Raven then had to pay the artist a fee to continue to use the art. Coven still claims not to know who Rochelle is.
Raven Avalon appropriated two copyrighted internet photos from their owners, in one case even removing the artists watermark, before claiming both were of herself, photographed and painted by a friend. The real artist painter confirmed her work was stolen and altered.
Following this exposure, Raven went on the attack, using her alts and group members to harass the whistleblowers. The coven posted Rochelle Moore's old Hate List from 2009/2010, and encouraged all members to report the people on the list and get them banned from Facebook. (Side by side lists can be seen in the previous post).
click to enlarge
The Goblin Hunter alt is created, Coven admins join him/her on all his profiles and pages, and s/he repeatedly creates numerous groups, spamming the Hate List and calling for everyone on the list (130+ Facebook pagans) to be Reported and banned. Most profiles and groups are removed by Facebook for Hate Speech.
click to enlarge
Raven Avalon continues to plagiarize. On her coven group info, it initially copied Ravensgrove Coven's information. This was changed, and the current info is palgiarized from uncredited web sources (see image below), yet signed by Raven herself. One wonders why a self-declared third-degree Gardnerian high priestess, who claims to have been teaching and running seminars for years, cannot write a simple introduction paragraph for her own coven statement.
large image, click to enlarge
At this point, the coven members are still continuing to deny their involvement and promotion of the Hate List with attacks, obfuscations, denials and twisted tales. They continue to deny that Raven is Rochelle Moore. They cannot offer even a single explanation as to why their coven is Moore's group page - (among other things.) Raven still refuses to provide any credentials or verification to back her teaching and 3rd-degree Gardnerian high priestess claims, her location, and even her supposed "coven of 20 years." Offers to meet in her supposed Wiltshire location, in a public place, with well-known public figures of the UK pagan leadership are ignored. Any legitimate teacher would be willing to provide their credentials.
Rather ironically, Black Raven Coven has The Seekers Bill of Rights posted as a document:
"1. "The Right to Verify Credentials: Seekers shall not be obstructed from contacting persons who can substantiate or disavow the claims made by a group or teacher. In the case of elders who were inspired to create a new tradition, the seeker has a right to know the circumstances surrounding the inception of that tradition."
I suppose it's to lend a feeling of credibility to the group, and the newbies are afraid to ask.Those who have read the 'coven books' report that they are a simplistic rehash of basic material found for free all over the internet. The coven 'Book of Shadows' is only 200+ pages, yet covers 60 topics; meaning each topic averages two pages each, front and back. Chops has not reviewed the book, but has had numerous confirmations of the above statements. The Coven charged for the books and also for lessons; they deny this but Chops has screenshots of the pages on this, and unless they have removed it, the post by Llewellyn David explaining the charges for lessons and to send them to an anonymous Paypal email remains in the coven Discussions.
Enough. The connection with Rochelle Moore following last years plagiarism (and re-self-publishing as Zara Alcott) remains quite clear. Chops warns Dear Readers once more about scammers trying to separate pagans from their money. Steer clear, and please pass the word to newbies, especially.
